@Fett263
OK, I’m not a coder so this may be above my pay grade but here goes:
I have a saber from Korbanth which has like 70 beautiful styles on it and really nice sound fonts to go with them. The problem is they seem to be older styles and most of the sound is out of sync. Mainly with the retraction.
When I build a new style with the style library and set the retraction timing to 0 it works perfectly. The problem is that is is hard for me to look at the saber when it is on and try to figure out exactly what all the style parameters are so that I can “recreate” this style in the main blade editor just to get that perfect retraction.
I guess the way around this is:
- Find the place in the old style where I can put the 0 retraction code?
or
- Create a new style just to get the updated retraction timing and then copy and paste the old style code over the new leaving the 0 retraction code?
Again, I’m new to coding so apologies if this is obviously not an option.
If this is not possible it would be cool if there was somehow a way to “reverse engineer” the style and paste the code of the old style into a tool and have it show up in the blade editor where you could tweak it and then generate updated code.
Thanks.
It’s going to heavily depend on the style. If it’s really old it won’t have the right set up. Also, with 70 styles if you start mixing old and new code you will waste a lot of memory and not fit nearly as much on the saber.
IMHO, it’s always better to generate new code.
That would be my recommendation. If there’s a specific style(s) that you cannot figure out it’s name/equivalent you can post and I can point you in the general direction. But if it’s very old there may be differences as there’s been a lot of upgrades and improvements in OS7.
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The retraction animation is typically in an InOutTrL layer.
If you see that in the blade style code, you can swap the “out-in” part (the retraction animation) for a transition that is timed to the sound instead (using WavLen).
You can use the Style Editor to make the change easily in a visual way.
See this video for doing exactly that:
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Thank you.
Are there any into videos on how to use the style editor?
Not really. But it’s not that complicated. There’s several old videos on fett263’s YouTube, but I don’t think there are specifically for how to use it, moreso explaining blade styles.
Just sort of click around and get a feel for it. Ultimately, the text box is what shows up on the right hand column when you click the submit button. Anything you click on the right hand side will show up isolated in the text box.
Clicking on the outermost bracket of the right hand column will select the whole thing, while selecting subsections and even further subsections continue to isolate and drill down to the individual elements of the layer.
You can substitute any color with a layer or style. Those 3 are all interchangeable.
Otherwise you can just watch my video you’ll see it in action and kind of get the idea hopefully.
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OK, so after watching the video here is an example of one of my styles:
InOutTrL<TrWipeSparkTip<White,300>,TrWipeInSparkTip<White,500>>
I’m guessing the TrWipe is when the saber turns on and the TrWipIn is when you turn it off.
So would this be correct?:
InOutTrL<TrWipeSparkTip<White,300>,TrWipeInX<WavLen<EFFECT_RETRACTION>>
What do I do about the SparkTip<White,500>>? I mean I still want to tell it that It’s a white spark tip so we can lose the 500 but how do I format the spark tip?
Or am I way off here?
Probably easier to just TrWipeSparkTipX<> and TrWipeInSparkTipX<>
OK, I’ll look into that.
I just tried it on a regular wipein:
I took this: TrWipe<300>,TrWipeIn<500>>
And replaced it with: TrWipe<300>,TrWipeInX<WavLen<EFFECT_RETRACTION>>
And I got an error during the compile.
I think I’m missing something. Is there some other code I have to put in somewhere else to make the EFFECT_RETRACTION work?
Will that make the wipein fit to the in.wav file?
Holy shit it worked! I was getting errors because I was missing an ending bracket. There had to be 5 in total and I had 4 lol.
I’m going to try to figure out the Spark Tip now.
Thanks guys.
This is super fun btw.
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OK, I need some help with the spark tip.
If I expand the spark tip transition in the Style editor I get:
TrJoin<TrWipeIn<300>,TrSparkX<White,Int<400>,Int<300>,Int<32768>>>
How would you use WavLen on that one?
Also, regarding EFFECT_NONE:
That’s what it’ll say because it already knows that it’s within the EFFECT_RETRACTION effect layer. This results in a cleaner shortened syntax in the actual resulting style code as just WavLen<>
You could just as well have it say EFFECT_RETRACTION instead and actually specify, it’s just not required.
When default values are used in style code, they are omitted provided that no other arguments that follow have been changed from their default values.
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This was brilliant and thanks for taking the time to make me a video. I’m also getting a hang of the style editor. I did exactly what you said and there was no error so I uploaded it and tried it out. Instead of a wipe in, it just blinked off. I then added EFFECT_RETRACTION between the empty brackets and it worked. I like your simpler syntax but it’s not working on that particular style. These are older styles so I don’t know if that has anything to do with it.
Thanks again.
Yeah, It’s not you. I certainly have had EFFECT_NONE not work in some instances, where it works fine in others. It’s supposed to work regardless as far as I remember, but there is some condition that could cause it to not be aware of the current EFFECT (retraction), I just don’t remember what that reason is. Specifying EFFECT_RETRACTION makes it work. Some timing issue I would guess.
I’m sure @profezzorn knows/remembers.
Glad you are getting the hang of it. It is fun for sure (when you get the result you wanted!)
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If I wanted reverse engineer this layer of a style:
<Stripes<16000,-1000,RotateColorsX<Variation,Rgb16<47835,0,0>>,Pulsing<RotateColorsX<Variation,Rgb16<65535,4975,4975>>,RotateColorsX<Variation,Rgb16<47835,0,0>>,800>,RotateColorsX<Variation,Rgb16<47835,0,0>>>`Preformatted text`
on @Fett263 's style library, would that be possible?
If I’m reading this correctly, it’s a stripes layer where the first and third colors are the same red and the second color is pulsing the same red as colors one and three with a lighter red. All with a large stripe width and negative scroll speed.
I really like this look and was wondering if I can dial that in, say, via the canon section of the library. Or should I just build a canon style and then paste that code in?
Dial it in how? It’s easily ediable, just what do you want to do?
Yes, you can use it as a base color for a blade in any style, you would just replace the first listed layer.
I just wanted to update these older styles to have OS7 capabilities which happens when you build a style in his builder. Since I’m not great with code I was wondering if there was a path to get this look via his builder. But I’m getting better with understanding the code everyday so…
You can make a style that uses the “control layers” and all that, then just swap in this base color layer. Super simple.
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