Fett, I live in a Southamerican socialist sinkhole where I have to have friends who go to the US bring me PTFE wires. And yet, I refuse to use anything but for installs. I’ve rather have trash tools and workbench than PVC wires. You will need a good wire stripper, though. The normal ones don’t usually work because the PTFE is so thin and strong. And 63/37 tin, don’t skimp on the tin.
I recommend going lead-free.
Lead-free requires slightly higher temperatures, but it’s worth it.
More details: The Solder Specification
I was able to wrap up this side, not as many pics just plowed through to get it done. Before “buttoning” up I tested each connection with a multimeter end to end.
Then test fit into the hilt. Just a note, the button plunger is a tight fit, the button has to be completely flat and secured or the plunger can snag on it. Ended up catching the first attempt and had to replace the button, luckily I have spares or I would have been really ticked off. The tolerances on this hilt are super tight.
Will start the center chassis next chance I get, it will house the speakers and the matching 10 pole connector to this chassis to tie back to the board. I purposefully left a kill switch off this side so that everything is controlled by one switch on the “main” chassis with the board it in.
With things being tight and button damage a concern are you going with a recharge port or blade-plug charging to reduce the amount of times you actually would have to pull the chassis out to swap batteries?
No, I’m not a fan of recharge ports. I’m just documenting things I’ve run into and had to consider for anyone who comes along and tries to do similar install. Now that the button is fully seated and glued down it seems to be fine, it just has no margin of error with the plunger being so far extended into the chassis. On other hilts with this type of plunger they didn’t seem to stick so deep into the hilt as this one does, something for hilt designers to keep in mind maybe.
Got a little more done BUT ran into a small issue. The center chassis only accounted for the height of the connector pins, it didn’t account for needing to make contact and compress the pins so while testing there’s not enough (or any contact) with the 10 pole connector to work. I’ve sent some new measurements to Dan at Korbanth and he’s going to adjust and send a new center chassis.
In the interim I plan to start working on the other end chassis although I may need to adjust things so I’ll just “rough fit” for now until I can get the new center chassis in and test.
Wired up the 10-pole connector “female” side.
As well as the 2 speakers for the middle section (I’m wiring the speakers + and - opposite each other, even though they don’t directly face each other I want to be sure they don’t cancel each other out in the center section.
I got the center section “rough fit” (although I’ll be replacing with a slightly longer version once I receive.
When testing the connection inside the hilt there was no continuity through the connector, it looks like the center chassis was measured to fit inside the black collars for the hilt at the height of the pins so there’s a slight air gap between the connectors, we have to add a little to the length of the ends of the center chassis to allow the connector to contact and slightly compress the pins in the end chassis for a solid connection.
Received the longer center chassis from Dan and works like a charm now. Before moving forward I did a rough fit and tested all of the connections for continuity when assembled.
The male side installed in one end.
Rough fit of the female side of the 10-pole connector in the new center chassis
Then when the center part of the hilt is applied it now compresses the connector pins for contact Prior to lengthening the center chassis they were not making contact. Now when joining the center to the collar you have to apply a little pressure which compresses the pins for a solid connection and tighten the three set screws to secure.
I also learned my lesson on the first side chassis, I picked up some thinner gauge wire AND ran all of the wires before connecting anything. Still a super tight fit, especially the channels for the button and mini accents so had to open those up a bit even with the thinner gauge, but now the wires are in place, will start soldering the components next chance I get.
Just getting back at this after a much needed spring break trip. Had to change up the board location, I was hoping to mount the board in one “end” but even with the thinner gauge wires there was no way to route everything from both ends into the end chassis. Luckily, Dan originally designed the center chassis to house the speakers and board so I’m going back to that set up. It will make the board a little more complicated to access but there was simply too much to try to route bringing both blades, two batteries, two speakers, two buttons and two accent strips into one end with how tight the fit is.
It looks like a “rats nest” but these are all of the wires needed to run everything, the original plan would route the detachable chassis wires through the center, along with the speakers into the left most chassis (through the black collar piece) with slack to allow the center chassis to spin as the left is screwed in, however, now I’ll just be routing the left chassis components into the center chassis and connecting both the detachable (right) chassis and fixed (left) chassis wires to the board in the center chassis opposite the speakers.
It’s going to be a “tight” fit and the board will need some slack to lift from the chassis to access the USB but it “should” work.
Now I just have to reroute a few wires and double check everything before I start connecting the board. There’s a lot less room in this center chassis so I have to plan and route each wire so they can lay as flat as possible under the board because there’s not a lot of clearance underneath with the speaker mounts.
Fingers crossed this works or I’m running out of ideas
Seems like you need thinner wires. (thinner insulation that is, not less copper.)
I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of this if it helps:
Thanks, yeah I run very similar 28 gauge for the data, buttons, speaker and the accent LEDs, the issue is the 24 gauge wires needed for the connector and battery. The channel for the wires in this chassis can only really accommodate 4 or 5 24 gauge wires at most, but since I have to run the one line for the battery and connector +s and 2 lines for the negatives on both I’m coming up short. I tried to use 2 28 gauge lines in their place but it is just too many wires. The original design of this chassis only had to handle the kill switch and speaker lines coming from the one end, I’m trying to stuff 5 times as many wires through it and it’s just coming up a tad short, even with removing a little material. The gap below the battery is only high enough for a single wire to fit through the channel and only 1/3 of the radius has an opening for any wires so it’s just very limited, but it’s also not being used exactly how the original design was intended so I’m having to wing it as I go. The original intent on the chassis was to have it self contained with everything in one end and two boards running the two ends separately, so the channel out the back of the chassis to where the speaker would normally be housed is very limited and if I try to open it up it will mess up the integrity of the battery holder.
F, if you get hold of Category 6 UTP cable, those are gauge 28 and have really tiny cladding. Just getting 2m (7ft) at any hardware store is dirty cheap and will help with everything but 24 and 28s.
Cheap, but I wouldn’t recommend it.
Those will be solid copper cables, which will break easily if bent too many times.
Also, I suspect the plastic will melt and peal when soldered, because they aren’t meant to be soldered. I recommend spending the money on mil-spec PTFE wires instead, not cheap, but worth it.
I know, I’ve used them and have switched to PTFE cladding exclusively. But I’ve been given to understand that Fett does not have easy access to those cables.
Depending on the install, those cables are not supposed to be bent more than while doing the install. And soldering is challenging. But some of my early installs have gone for a couple of years without problems with that.